{"id":18946,"date":"2016-11-19T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-11-19T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/firmino-football-manager-mito-pfannenstiel\/"},"modified":"2026-09-27T18:37:21","modified_gmt":"2026-09-27T18:37:21","slug":"firmino-football-manager-mito-pfannenstiel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/en\/firmino-football-manager-mito-pfannenstiel\/","title":{"rendered":"Was Firmino discovered in Football Manager? The story the scout himself denied"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It is one of the most shared Football Manager stories ever. Shame that, apparently, it is not true.<\/p>\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_88 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Index<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"ez-toc-pull-right ez-toc-btn ez-toc-btn-xs ez-toc-btn-default ez-toc-toggle\" aria-label=\"Toggle Table of Content\"><span class=\"ez-toc-js-icon-con\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseprofile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/en\/firmino-football-manager-mito-pfannenstiel\/#A_versao_que_correu_mundo\" >The version that went around the world<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/en\/firmino-football-manager-mito-pfannenstiel\/#O_desmentido\" >The denial<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/en\/firmino-football-manager-mito-pfannenstiel\/#Entao_porque_e_que_ainda_se_conta\" >So why is it still told?<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"A_versao_que_correu_mundo\"><\/span>The version that went around the world<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>In November 2016, German Lutz Pfannenstiel, head of scouting at Hoffenheim, gave an interview to talkSPORT. Soon after, the English press reported that he had found a young Roberto Firmino in Football Manager. The story had everything: a scout, a computer game and an unknown Brazilian kid who would end up at Liverpool.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_19089\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19089\" style=\"width: 1202px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-19089\" src=\"https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-1.jpg\" alt=\"Roberto Firmino ao servi\u00e7o do Liverpool\" width=\"1202\" height=\"2423\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-1.jpg 1202w, https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-1-85x171.jpg 85w, https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-1-286x576.jpg 286w, https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-1-768x1548.jpg 768w, https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-1-762x1536.jpg 762w, https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-1-1016x2048.jpg 1016w, https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-1-6x12.jpg 6w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1202px) 100vw, 1202px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-19089\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Roberto Firmino playing for Liverpool. <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Roberto_Firmino_2017.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Photo: @cfcunofficial (Chelsea Debs) London, CC BY-SA 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Firmino had swapped Figueirense, of Brazil\u2019s S\u00e9rie B, for Hoffenheim at the end of 2010. In 2015 he was sold to Liverpool for around \u00a329 million. It seemed like the perfect proof that FM works.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"O_desmentido\"><\/span>The denial<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>But Pfannenstiel himself denied it. In a piece published by Hoffenheim titled \u201cRoberto Firmino \u2013 a fairytale from Absurdistan\u201d, he insisted he had not said a single word about the game during the interview, that he had never played it and, to be honest, did not even know it existed.<\/p>\n<p>His version is much more ordinary. Firmino was recommended to them by the ROGON agency, which had already brought other players to the club. And Pfannenstiel, who also played in Santa Catarina, had already seen him play as a kid. He just did not know his name.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Entao_porque_e_que_ainda_se_conta\"><\/span>So why is it still told?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Because we want it to be true. We have all discovered a wonderkid in FM who then exploded in real life, and that makes us feel like scouts. The Firmino story fit that fantasy perfectly.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_19090\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19090\" style=\"width: 1080px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-19090\" src=\"https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-2.jpg\" alt=\"O est\u00e1dio do Hoffenheim, onde Firmino se afirmou na Europa\" width=\"1080\" height=\"810\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-2.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-2-228x171.jpg 228w, https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-2-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/fmportugal.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/firmino-2-16x12.jpg 16w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-19090\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hoffenheim\u2019s stadium, where Firmino made his name in Europe. <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Rhein-Neckar-Arena_2015.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Photo: ACFlo (CC0), via Wikimedia Commons<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>But for the record, so we are not the ones spreading the myth: Firmino was discovered the old-fashioned way.<\/p>\n<p><em>Sources: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsg-hoffenheim.de\/en\/news\/overview\/2016\/11\/roberto-firmino-a-fairytale-from-absurdistan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">TSG Hoffenheim (November 2016)<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.empireofthekop.com\/2016\/11\/19\/firmino-scout-rubbishes-quirky-football-manager-rumour\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Empire of the Kop (11\/19\/2016)<\/a><\/em><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Durante anos correu a hist\u00f3ria de que Firmino foi descoberto no Football Manager. 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